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 Post subject: Viola species
PostPosted: Sat Jan 19, 2013 7:15 pm 
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I think these are Viola violella or another Viola species? but I cant be sure. Has anyone got any suggestions? From Laguna Blanca.

Thank you for your time
JP


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 Post subject: Re: Viola species
PostPosted: Sun Jan 20, 2013 7:23 am 
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That looks like a strong possibility, but I'm not sure how to separate these.
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 Post subject: Re: Viola species
PostPosted: Sun Jan 20, 2013 9:46 am 
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Ezequiel Nunez Bustos thinks it might be V.minor. He is from Argentina and knows the skippers there well.


 
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 Post subject: Re: Viola species
PostPosted: Sun Jan 20, 2013 4:17 pm 
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It is hard to get to species level on these LBJs.... But that makes the challenge fun :) Viola minor is a good suggestion.. I wasnt sure if it had been recorded in Paraguay. Please thank Ezequiel for his help.

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 Post subject: Re: Viola species
PostPosted: Sun Jan 20, 2013 9:13 pm 
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Hola; I think the first and second shots are V. violella because of the checkered pattern on the hindwing.The third shot could be minor, but what about alicus? Saludos Ricardo


 
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 Post subject: Re: Viola species
PostPosted: Mon Jan 21, 2013 10:47 am 
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Ricardo, the first 2 shots are the same specimen and the 3rd is another. The hindwings of the two individuals are definitely different, but i just took that as variation... So it could be two different species, interesting. I do see that the first individual has that checkered pattern. Is that a defining feature of V. violella? As you say the 3rd shot definitely looks more like minor or alicus, they are both a good possibility. I am going try find out if there are records of these two species in Paraguay. Thank you


 
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 Post subject: Re: Viola species
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Hola JP: Im leaning towards Viola alicus. What specimen shots I have seem to match that rather than minor. I know one is not supposed to go by color,but the grey bands on the dorsal forewing of your bug match mine. Saludos Ricardo PS I hope an expert will look at this and give his or her opinion.


 
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 Post subject: Re: Viola species
PostPosted: Wed Jan 23, 2013 9:26 pm 
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Thanks again for your help Ricardo. This is a tricky genus. Where did you find your V.alicus? Do you still think the first specimen is violella or do you think they all alicus? I did find out that minor has been found near Iguazu. Thanks JP


 
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